If you’ve followed the site for some time now you know Chad Felix Greene, a married gay conservative, is a Twitchy favorite, and he really kicked the hornets’ nest recently with his piece on how coming out as a conservative was more difficult for him than coming out as gay. (“Sports” site Deadspin told Greene and other gay conservatives to “shut the f**k up” in the headline of its witty rejoinder.)
We’ve never heard of Twitter blue-check Indya Moore, but they (we’re not going to assume gender here, sorry) got into a twist with Greene Thursday when he described as “just silly” the idea that male and female bodies are colonial constructs. Party of science, folks.
We believe it all started here:
.@HRC found that:
40% of trans people hear jokes about trans people in the workplace.
42% of trans workers are afraid they’ll get fired if they tell anyone they’re trans.This is a #MustRead for people who want to be better allies in the workplace.https://t.co/PQc5a3giP2
— Human Rights Campaign (@HRC) January 10, 2019
But are any trans people actually discriminated against or treated poorly?
We must base policy on the perception of people and what they think others think about them? https://t.co/7CsYta3NMK
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
I don't need polls of LGBT telling me how they feel about what others might think of them.
I don't need to know what percent 'fears' this or that hypothetical scenario.
How many people are treated badly for being LGBT and how could law or policy prevent it?
That's all.— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Makes sense to us. It’s far too often that the government thinks legislation is a valid means of policing how people feel.
We’re gonna skip ahead a bit to the part about bodies being colonial constructs. We think male and female bodies are determined by chromosomes; change our minds.
Male bodies and female bodies are inconsistent colonial constructs that do not exist. It’s also okay to like what you like. And for there to be patterns in your attractions. Its also okay and beautiful for there not to be patterns in your attractions. Everybody is sexy. Thats it.
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 3, 2019
This is just silly. https://t.co/P8ftk8ukB5
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Because you’re cis. And you benefit from colonialism, so you don’t understand the issues that affect others because of it.
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
And he’s white.
I'm not cis.
I'm nonbinary.
The biological male/female sex binary is not a new concept introduced by western colonialism.We come from the same larger culture, and you make a lot of assumptions to validate your self-created worldview. https://t.co/mJdaT4v3dO
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
I'm trans and Jewish.
Wouldn't we share indoctrination and if so why would you assume what you believe you understand, to be correct? https://t.co/nNBxAQTWIz— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Shut up chad https://t.co/v3KnCLjIay
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
Like we said, Deadspin and about a hundred other outlets already told him to shut the f**k up and he’s not going to.
Lmfao you’re literally transphobic. Your opinion bares no balanced merit. You’re legit trash for measuring reality by your own experiences. Humble yourself you and your experiences aren’t the center or default. pic.twitter.com/GE5RY8RU8o
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
I am trans.
If I am trash for measuring reality by my own experiences, then wouldn't you agree with my argument that policy should not be based on the collection of personal experiences? Are the participants here also trash?Why is my experience less valid than anyone else's? https://t.co/yi7ZDEwKb4
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
And @chadfelixg is also transphobic. Sure you don’t wanna stop talking chad? https://t.co/cXimxItPmp
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
No.
As I explained already, I am trans. https://t.co/KtT68wb3zp— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
So chad doesn’t wanna shut up. k.. ??♀️ https://t.co/3hGw4HxSmo
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
I don't allow others to assert the privilege of telling me when I can speak and what I can speak on. ☕ https://t.co/fRJqjb3T6a
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
you’re trans and white. You can be jewish but you’re white. You’re also transphobic. And benefit from white supremacy. What I believe is correct because I’ve experienced gender in it’s multitudes and there are people that exist who super-cede male and female bodies (trans people) https://t.co/IcN7gH2Y1i
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
So you believe your gender expression is superior to mine because…?
I'm non-binary. I enjoy humanity through individuality, not gender stereotypes.
I also do not recognize your racist segregation or attempts to dehumanize me through racial prejudices.
We are both people. https://t.co/YMgyR3tEAE
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Back up a bit. What happened to “everyone is sexy”? Is Greene sexy transphobic trash or what?
Boom. Your experience isn’t less valid, you’re just bias because you only center your own experiences and point of views based on them. For example- you called my position on male and female bodies not being real, “silly” while, non binary. https://t.co/7XnHYjJCd8
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
Your position is silly.
It is simply inaccurate to argue there is no distinction between male and female human anatomy.I am non-binary, a subjective experience of gender through cultural stereotypes; I am objectively an adult male human. https://t.co/7MPvSQoWCG
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Cis assumed non binary white @chadfelixg says trans surgeries are making things worse for trans people. Chad a non recipient of trans surgery, is an expert on what is best for trans people who need surgeries. https://t.co/cXimxItPmp
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
That escalated quickly. Does Greene have to have “cis assumed non-binary white person” in his Twitter bio and on his business cards now? If we’re gonna label people, might as well go all the way.
So you are imposing gender limitations onto me, misgendering me, while engaging in racial discrimination and denying my ethnicity to incorrectly paraphrase an article I wrote, you clearly did not read? ? https://t.co/BRPZb2eFG5
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
@chadfelixg don’t contribute to conversations I hold. You aren’t allowed, and I can block you just to prove that point. That is an ability everyone on twitter has. It’s not a priviledge chad. https://t.co/tX6DsQ8usd
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
You exist only for the amusement of my followers as an example of hatred, bigotry and limited thinking, identical to so many on the Left. ? https://t.co/XuNxXwThkI
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
And trust us; Greene’s followers, including us, were very amused by the whole exchange.
LOL
This could be the best parody of an intersectionality warrior that I've ever seen! https://t.co/JlSh8OgmjW
— RBe (@RBPundit) January 10, 2019
Sorry Chad I just couldn't get past the first sentence…. pic.twitter.com/FKolXerfTN
— Bobby Cappasola (@USA_Not_Oceania) January 10, 2019
Colonial?? New one to me. What do u mean?
— ? Pen Aagaard ? (@parradiddle) January 10, 2019
So male and female bodies do not exist? Tell that to all the trans people who spend all this energy trying to change their bodies to look more female or male….sounds transphobic. pic.twitter.com/T0ToMZ4VuI
— Eat my art (@danjdob) January 10, 2019
I'm fairly certain that the binary gender norms came along way before colonialism. Like way back when people were making carvings on cave walls.
— Morally Correct Phil (@earlp1231) January 10, 2019
So…sex in walruses and swans and capybaras was created by “colonial constructs”? Really? Are you sure about that?
How do people entertain such hopelessly dunderheaded nonsense?
— Uta Jóhansdóttir (@UtaJohansdottir) January 10, 2019
Gender identity is an inconsistent colonial construct that does not exist.
To claim that indigenous peoples are too stupid to realize that mammals come in two configurations wrt. reproduction ("can get pregnant" and "can impregnate") is just woke racism.
— SocJusWiz (@socjuswiz2) January 10, 2019
I actually agree with sentences 2, 3, and 4. Sentence 1 is absurd. Sentence 5 is a dishonest platitude.
— Cam Edwards (@CamEdwards) January 10, 2019
Everybody is sexy to somebody. So every body is sexy.
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
I think it's a lovely sentiment. I just don't share the opinion. 🙂
— Cam Edwards (@CamEdwards) January 10, 2019
We’re gonna assume that Melania Trump found Donald Trump sexy, so his body must be sexy too.
Everybody is sexy. Obviously haven't met my next door neighbour.
— Goody O'Donnell (@Only_WomenBleed) January 10, 2019
The thing is, Moore apparently hasn’t blocked Greene yet, ’cause this thing is still going on, but we feel these wrap things up well.
Ahh the arrogance of the enlightened. ☕
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
'Your indoctrination into colonialist white supremacy makes you feel entitled to devalue the experiences of other people, cis, white man.'
?☕
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
If progressives believed what they repeat, they wouldn't react with such rage and hostility when confronted with skepticism.
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) January 10, 2019
Color us skeptical that male and female bodies are a colonial construct … we’d ask which university’s gender studies department is teaching that, but it’s probably hundreds.
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Update:
This explains everything:
Male and female binaries imperialised by western colonialism was the only time people died raped and were killed and had their cultures destroyed because of how they lived and existed. Its a colonial construct because it was the only one forced on people. #cancelchad https://t.co/PN2lVqpGJ1
— IAM (@IndyaMoore) January 10, 2019
Holy moly that's a lot of incorrect history.
— Benjamin Sano (@Lcoyote93) January 10, 2019
Related:
'Shut the f*ck up'! Deadspin, Out seek to destroy 'dangerous' Chad Felix Greene and gay conservatives https://t.co/C3wAmrdaNB
— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) December 12, 2018
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